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Tunnel Green
Here are some photos from Tunnel Green that my friend and I took. Tell me what you think of each one.
I thought this was rain, what do you think?
Pictures with suggestions
The Last Picture. Note the light orb in the lower left.
Let me know what everyone thinks of these.
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| posted on 3-19-09 at 01:38 AM |
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Great pictures Noel, I think this warrants future investigation.
I had a chance to look at the complete set.
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| posted on 3-19-09 at 12:48 PM |
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Nah it looks like you stirred up some dust on the road, either that or cars driving along kicked it up in the air. Not paranormal
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| posted on 3-19-09 at 01:20 PM |
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Well I can debunk your theory very easily stellar. With only 2 things.
1) It was raining, so therefore the dust would be suppressed by the rain.
2) We were on a walking trail, so no cars are allowed. Him and I were the only ones at the time as well.
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| posted on 3-22-09 at 10:46 AM |
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1) It was raining, so therefore the dust would be suppressed by the rain. |
Didn't that stryke you as being the cause? 
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| posted on 3-22-09 at 10:56 AM |
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Yes the fact that it was raining did strike me as a possible cause for the anomaly in the photo. But, I took 3 consecutive photos after that and the
same anomaly didn't happen. I took many photos in the rain that night and nothing. Only that one picture had that kind of pattern to it.
Explain that.
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| posted on 3-22-09 at 05:23 PM |
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If you were using a digital camera, that is the reason. Your shutter speed is extremely fast, capturing many frames per take. They overlap, creating
this effect.
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| posted on 3-22-09 at 06:28 PM |
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I say go back a few more times and get pictures if it's a recurring thing, it's damned hard to deny.
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| posted on 3-22-09 at 06:43 PM |
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Here's my take on the matter: the pictures are interesting, but at the moment, that's all they are. The fact that it can be potentially be
explained by natural means (in this case, rain) lets me know that I must instantly assume it is not paranormal. Without additional investigations and
equipment readings cooberating the findings, they are impossible to make heads or tales of.
I would rather label 100 paranormal events as natural before labeling one natural event as paranormal.
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| posted on 3-22-09 at 08:37 PM |
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That's what I'm getting at though. This event, was recreated multiple times that night. I took many pictures in the rain, and never got the effect.
Explain why this effect never reoccurred.
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| posted on 3-22-09 at 08:43 PM |
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I can't offer a concrete explanation, but we have to assume it was from the rain drops.
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| posted on 3-24-09 at 02:11 PM |
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We'll go with that.
But we can talk about my personal experience and my friend's as well. He felt it first. He felt a presence while we were there of a malevolent
spirit. After this he started to feel uneasy so he asked to leave. As we were leaving he felt as if we were being followed. Around the same time I
started to get all the feelings as stated above. Then after that questionable picture was taken, the feelings disappeared as if the spirit gave up on
following us. We felt easy and at peace in a way. Almost child like, which brings around another point. In there my friend had a name pop in his head
with an image of a little child around 8 or 9. The name was Zane. He has no idea why this happened but it somewhat explains our childlike feelings.
What does everyone think?
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| posted on 3-26-09 at 08:33 PM |
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I think you guys need to head back out
'Absense of evidence is not evidence of absence-Albert Einstein
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lest ye become a monster
and if you gaze into the abyss
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| posted on 3-27-09 at 02:46 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Azalin
I think you guys need to head back out |
Ditto
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| posted on 3-27-09 at 07:36 PM |
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We did, and all we got was an EVP, granted it's an EVP. It proves there is paranormal activity.
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| posted on 3-27-09 at 08:33 PM |
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Not exactly...
We were able to provide a likely explanation for the EVP. Also, sound can echo in an area for years; therefore, we may have simply picked up a latent
conversation.
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| posted on 3-27-09 at 09:10 PM |
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couldnt it also be a disembodied voice too?
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| posted on 3-28-09 at 04:20 PM |
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lol do you always distrust your evidence?
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| posted on 3-28-09 at 06:22 PM |
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If I don't, someone else will.
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depending on the type of camera being used and the speed of it objects can appear to be moving. thus looking at rain it would have a trail coming off
it as if it was moving downwards or even possibly sideways. also keep in mind the direction of the wind to blow rain occasionally upwards. some of
the possible orbs in the picture appear to be going up. Dust does have the ability to go up, down and side to side. but since it was raining it is
unlikely that dust was flying around. its an interesting picture reguardless of what it is. I would suggest that the tunnel deserves more attention
in the future
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| posted on 3-28-09 at 07:55 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bloodbydark
depending on the type of camera being used and the speed of it objects can appear to be moving. thus looking at rain it would have a trail coming off
it as if it was moving downwards or even possibly sideways. also keep in mind the direction of the wind to blow rain occasionally upwards. some of
the possible orbs in the picture appear to be going up. Dust does have the ability to go up, down and side to side. but since it was raining it is
unlikely that dust was flying around. its an interesting picture reguardless of what it is. I would suggest that the tunnel deserves more attention
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yes taht could totally explain orbs
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| posted on 4-9-09 at 10:51 AM |
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The website says that you are planning another visit, any luck?
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| posted on 4-19-09 at 10:38 AM |
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I might get people mad at me now lol
Well for one ...i'm not a ORB fan, as much as i would like to be.
But there are many elemental things that can cause ..orbs.
If i may show some photos....
The photos on the bottom are from an "orb" study performed by the MidNite Walkers Paranormal Research Society.
Looking over these various photographic "orbs," created by drifting dust and lint particles in front of a camera outfitted with a flash, it is
possible to see the wide variety of "orbs" that can appear in photographs.
We literally have captured hundreds of "orb" photographs during the existence of our group. With a camera and a pinch of dust, you can take a dozen
"orb" photographs anyplace, anytime that you would want.
Knowing how easy it is to recreate this natural cause for "orbs," it is difficult to see the obsession with these "orbs" that exists within many
paranormal investigation groups, paranormal websites, and paranormal television shows.
At least once a week, we are asked to analyze photographs with "orbs" in them.
I hope this helps you all out in the orb theory  trust me.
My thanks to a good friend at GhostVigil and The MidNite Walkers Paranormal Research Society for teaching me the fundamentals of orbs.
Ok let the bashing of Jim commense lol
Oh i am only editing one more part as my last saying on this....
In certain conditions by way of weather it is possible that even a gnat passing by or away from a camera can give off an orb shape even being as small
as they are.
But outside work is more Bug Orbs than any thing other than a light mist or condensation.
Ok done editing.
[Edited on 4-19-09 by theignorantone]
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